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Author Topic: Animated Kaleidoscope  (Read 2524 times)

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Toads Dont Exist

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Re: Animated Kaleidoscope
« Reply #10 on: January 09, 2007, 03:22:45 PM »
haha thanks dama and fence :D
i would have tried a more complex one
but i'm procrastinating again ::)

BTW i think i know how you make different petaled ones...
the layer masks are differently shaped right?
and there's more of them? :D
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Re: Animated Kaleidoscope
« Reply #11 on: January 10, 2007, 06:41:56 AM »
Quote from: Toads Dont Exist on January 09, 2007, 03:22:45 PM
BTW i think i know how you make different petaled ones...
the layer masks are differently shaped right?
and there's more of them? :D

Yep and I know how to make a faster car....put in a bigger engine!  :P ::)  You're on the right track and probably already know this, but the angles that the petals move in must also be changed.  For example, our 4-petaled one moved at 90 degree angles because it was coming from all four sides.  But, what would happen if you rotated those petals so that the center of the base were coming in from the corners?  The math is pretty simple: 360 divided by the number of petals will give the angles needed, but some adjustments are always necessary.  Plus there's some other tricks involved.  Once you get comfortable with GAP, I'm sure you'll be able to figure out some of those tricks! 

When you get ready to try a more complex one, like my or damascus' current avatars, give either of us a ring and we'll step you through the process.  It's really quite simple....I think damascus can vouch for that.  BTW, damascus, my avatar was done using the exact same steps I described to you....I just set my blend mode to 'Difference'.  Additionally, if you couldn't tell, that avatar was made from the exact one I used in the tutorial.
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Re: Animated Kaleidoscope
« Reply #12 on: January 10, 2007, 08:28:11 AM »
Yes, once you get your basic kaleidoscope happening, turning it into something with that extra 'Oooooahhhaaooo' is really very simple!  The technique can make for some very interesting results!

Oh, and Fencepost... I've learned my lesson.  I really don't need to manually add a border to each frame like I did last time.  I figured it out utilizing GAP - much easier.  I've also developed some shortcuts (ahem... once you get your layer masks all nicely done & labelled, you don't need to create them each & every time you make a kaleidoscope... just make an .xcf with the mask images, open it up, minimize and they're there available to you in GAP.)
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Re: Animated Kaleidoscope
« Reply #13 on: January 10, 2007, 08:53:58 AM »
You've really learned a lot!  Good work.  Adding the borders is a simple thing once you get the flow going....GAP makes it so much easier, doesn't it?

That's an excellent point about saving a 'template document'.  That's what I do...No need to reinvent the wheel each time.  In theory, you could just have one texture and one mask and rotate it through GAP as needed.  Unfortunately, GIMP has this problem when it comes to rotation and adjusts the layer's center point in each rotation.  So, it 'jiggles' when it shouldn't because each layer is being readjusted based on that new center point.  Definitely a flaw of GIMP, but just one of those things you learn to workaround.

I'm very proud of you with what you've learned.  Soon, you'll be figuring out ways to exploit GAP!
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Re: Animated Kaleidoscope
« Reply #14 on: January 17, 2007, 07:16:13 AM »
How did I miss this? This is awesome Fence. Im going to install gap when i get the time =] this will be the first thing i do  :)
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Re: Animated Kaleidoscope
« Reply #15 on: January 17, 2007, 07:57:45 AM »
Cool!  Let me know if you need any help and make sure you show me some results.  Also, once you get it done, try combining it with my Animations Within an Animation tutorial (http://www.gimpdome.com/forum/index.php?topic=3325.0) and you'll see how I made the avatar you're currently using.

Looking forward to seeing some results.

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Re: Animated Kaleidoscope
« Reply #16 on: March 04, 2007, 01:50:40 PM »
I'm having a problem with the first step: The text file. I put it in my scripts folder, and it doesn't appear.
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Re: Animated Kaleidoscope
« Reply #17 on: March 04, 2007, 05:56:47 PM »
Did you restart GIMP or refresh your scripts? Xtns > Script-FU > Refresh Scripts

You gotta do that first before GIMP will see them.

If you've done that, I'm not sure what to tell you.  I've never really had any problems with scripts being recognized.
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Re: Animated Kaleidoscope
« Reply #18 on: March 05, 2007, 11:44:08 AM »
It still doesn't work so can you just tell me how I would do this manually? Basically give me the step number and how to do it manually without the crosshair guides(?)
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Re: Animated Kaleidoscope
« Reply #19 on: March 05, 2007, 12:02:58 PM »
Image Menu > Guides > New Guide By Percent

50 % Horizontal....

Do again, but choose 50% Vertical.
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